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“Law Firm Breakups and Staying Sane” w/Guy DiMartino
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Today on the show we have Guy DiMartino, a former chiropractor physician turned healthcare law litigator. We’ll discuss law firm breakups, systemizing multiple practice areas, and running offices in completely different regions of the country.

Hacking’s Hack:  I had a very interesting conversation with Kent Richardson about consistency and follow-through when it comes to content creation. If you put it out there that you’re going to do something and you’ve fallen off, recommit yourself and reconnect with why you were originally doing it.

Tyson’s Tip: Storage companies have a great way of getting reviews. They give you a postcard and have you fill out your comments and review their experience. Just the physical invitation is extremely effective.

Guy’s Tip: Read “If You Want to Get Rich Build a Power Niche” by Bruce Statchenfeld. 

Guy’s Podcasts:

http://www.thepersonalinjurylawpodcast.com/
http://www.chiropractic-lawyer.com/
https://www.amazon.com/Want-Rich-Build-Power-Niche-ebook/dp/B07K5KHGTG
https://www.michigancityinjurylaw.com/
https://gsdimartino.com/

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Transcripts: Law Firm Breakups and Staying Sane with Guy DiMartino

Guy DiMartino
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Unknown Speaker
Run your law firm the right way. This is the maximum lawyer podcast, podcast, your hosts, Jim hacking and Tyson metrics. Let’s partner up and maximize your firm. Welcome to the show.

Jim Hacking
Welcome back to the maximum lawyer Podcast. I’m Jim hacking.

Tyson Mutrux
And I’m taking echecks What’s up Jimmy

Jim Hacking
Tyson, my friend, it’s good to talk to you. I’m excited about our guest today.

Tyson Mutrux
I am too. You know, I was thinking about this the other day, and I don’t know why we haven’t had him on this point. We probably should add him a long time ago. Do you want to say who it is?

Jim Hacking
Yeah, he’s certainly one of our biggest supporters. He came to Mexico Con last year and he was much taller than I thought from seeing him on video. He’s a good friend of the show. He’s a plaintiff’s attorney doing lots of different stuff in Florida and in Indiana, and his name’s guy, Martino guy. Welcome to the show.

Guy DiMartino
Thanks a lot, Jim. Appreciate it.

Tyson Mutrux
Hi, guys. Do you know the routine so tell us about your background and how you got to where you are now.

Guy DiMartino
So I first started as a first trained as a chiropractic physician. I graduated National College in Chicago area in 1986. I practiced in Florida for a little bit of time, and then I moved up to Northwest Indiana because it’s family concerns. And I practiced in Northwest Indiana till 2003 as a chiropractic doctor. In the late 90s. I was starting to get a little bit stale with chiropractic. So I lived in Valparaiso, Indiana, and there’s a law school there and had a lot of friends that were lawyers, and I dealt with lawyers a lot. So I said, Well, let me go into this law thing. Let me let me try, you know, this law thing. And so I took a couple of classes, and then they sort of liked me. So they gave me a scholarship for go for nothing. So I so I jumped in full, full time, and I graduated operation in 1999. And then I practiced actually, chiropractic and law, I have two suites across the street across the hall from each other. And no, I didn’t refer to myself for injury cases, just in case you want to know that Tyson. So then in 2003, I decided I wanted to move back to Florida to be closer to my parents. And then so in 2003, I decided to move down back Florida close up my shop in Indiana, but I brought a number of files with me. And then I practiced in Orlando area for a relatively large insurance defense firm. I’ve traveled all over the country doing med mal defense, travel for about 40 weeks a year and started getting old. So then I you know, I always had the cleanup stuff blood in me. So I went to a plaintiff’s farm and then, and then I went and started on my own. And then my daughter and my lovely daughter decided to have a child. And she’s up in Northwest Indiana. So we sort of migrated back up to Northwest. And so now I’m splitting my time between Northwest Indiana right outside Chicago, and ride outside Orlando, and just northwest of Orlando in Florida. So that brings me to today. guy that’s

Jim Hacking
that’s a really interesting story. I’m sure a lot of people didn’t know that about you. And I bet that it’s unusual that a chiropractor goes to medical school. So I’m sure that you were an interesting person to have at the law school. What What lessons did you learn running a chiropractic practice that transferred over to running a law firm?

Guy DiMartino
Yes, a chiropractic practice is very people oriented. And you know, when you look at folks that are in medicine, you know, they get their referrals from the hospital, somebody goes into the ER and they’re on Attach when they, when they leave, they get a list of doctors follow up with orthopedic doctor. That’s just not the case with chiropractic. So what generally as what I see with chiropractors, on the whole is that a lot of them are very entrepreneurial. They’re able to they really work on their people skills, and they’re able to do it because if you don’t go out and shake the bushes and bring in your your own business, you really do not have referral sources. So that’s what I see. Generally, that’s probably the biggest thing you know, dealing with folks, and time’s up. crisis, somebody comes into your chiropractic office, a lot of times they’re in pain to have something going on, something comes into your law office, a lot of times they’re in pain, they have

Tyson Mutrux
something going on. Okay, there are a lot of listeners that have multiple offices or they want to have multiple offices, how were you able to manage your two offices? And give me tips from listeners on how to do it more

Guy DiMartino
effectively? Well, I don’t know that I did, effectively, you know, so last year. So initially, when I had both offices, I had a partner in my my Northwest Indiana office, but I have a number of years, we went to law school together. And as folks who are involved in the mastermind experience know, I went through a pretty tough breakup with my partner. And it was, you know, really, really affected me emotionally. And that happened last August. So then when I, when I came and broke off with him, I brought some staff from from that office. And that just didn’t work. Because they, they had the same type of attitude. So one day I came in, and I just said, Everybody’s got to go. And I was a true solo there for about 60 days. But the way that I manage the offices in the way that I manage up with now, it’s pretty much most of my staff was in Northwest Indiana. And we got sort of like the hub. And then I have part time staff and my Florida office. And then I manage everything through you know, the computer, I use my case, everything gets uploaded to my case, I you know, I use Google Docs or use OneDrive, perhaps along those lines. Guy, would you mind talking

Jim Hacking
a little bit about that mindset of clearing house and why you wanted to transition to going solo, one of our members in the group, Todd Smith has been talking about this on Facebook, and I thought you might have some advice or thoughts for him or anyone else thinking along those lines?

Tyson Mutrux
Yeah,

Guy DiMartino
so before I went in, to business with the person that was my friend, you know, my wife sort of liked him and pushed me into it, and I love my wife, and she’s, you know, she’s an accountant and MBA, and we do things together. But I said, you know, there should have had some drawbacks and concerns. And she’s like, guy, you know, you are always looking at things from the bad side from the cup, you know, half empty type sign, I said, Well, honey, I sort of have these concerns. So I get into the practice, and we were just not equal to Yo, you know, I wanted to go ahead and do things to develop the practice and work together. And he was just set it in his mindset, and it just didn’t work. And I think part of the issue is, is criminal defense lawyer. And so when you’re a criminal defense lawyer, people come in, you get the money from them. And then whether you win, lose or draw, you still get paid. When you do stuff on a contingency fee basis, you have to be more discerning in the way that you, you look at your cases. And a lot of times within a week, or a minute or a day, you have to decide whether you’re going to take the matter, or whether you’re going to cut it loose. Because once you’re into the matter, you put your time, your energy, your soul and everything into it. And that was the big difference in our in our makeup. And so we were just not, you know, real in the right way. We just didn’t see things the right way. And it was just a constant battle. And I just hated going into the office after a few years. I couldn’t stand the staff. It just didn’t, didn’t work. For me. I was like, miserable, and it was just driving me crazy. Now we’re actually now that I’m not with him anymore, we developed our friendship again. So it’s sort of, you know, working out, but it’s just like going through a divorce. I mean, you go through the guilt. You go through the, you know, remorse. You go through the anger, you go through the frustration, even now, you know, I decided when I was going to break up, that I wasn’t going to argue over fees, I was still going to get a miss cut on all the files. And sometimes, you know, writing a check, you know, a decent size check, I get a little angry, but then I just take a breath and say, in the long run, this is all going to be better. So I decided to not, you know, fight with him, not do anything so we could you know, both live because I’m busy enough and I don’t need to put my time and energy and frustration into that situation. Because that sort of makes sense.

Tyson Mutrux
Then I start make sense? I love the mindset. I mean, I, you and I went through something very, very similar around the same time, and mine wasn’t as painful as yours, mine was actually pretty, pretty easy. And it was done within a week, actually. So then we our partnership didn’t go on as long we were. So I love the mindset of just making a clean break and be done with the fact I have a different question that’s related to that when you cleaned house, and you were completely solo, what? What was the? How are your clients responding

Guy DiMartino
to that? Most of them were okay. I think people understood that it was a transition. And my wife jumped in to help. And she’s very personable, and generally knows a lot of folks, and is really articulate and really good. So I was okay. You know, you always hear the same, the same stuff from folks, which are like, where is so and so and they call up and they want to know, speak to so and so who they’ve been speaking with, regarding their claim, but I just gave them direct access to me. And so it was, you know, a lot more work on my part. But I didn’t find a really big problem. Guy, one of the things that

Jim Hacking
I really admire about you is your, your growth mindset and how you’re always striving to improve. And you know, you, you’re in John’s mastermind, you came to Maxwell, and I know you do a lot of other things to sort of keep fresh, how do you sort of view the world when it comes to continuing education, like real world education?

Guy DiMartino
Well, I think that, you know, if you don’t grow, if you’re not growing and thriving, you’re really dying. I mean, I, you know, I really try to work on making myself a better person. You know, but with that, I have a lot of interests. And, you know, it’s sort of a struggle with me, because I have all these interests. And I like doing a lot of different things. And I know that everybody speaks, you know, you really need to focus and you really need to put things, you know, make it laser like you just do immigration, Mike Tyson pretty much, you know, puts himself out there as a car accident lawyer. You know, I’m board certified by the Florida Bar and civil trial law. And I pretty much I have a lot of different interests. So I like to do all things that sort of touch healthcare. So I do injury work, I do medical malpractice, I represent doctors and False Claims Act, or, you know, I do things like that. And so sometimes it’s sort of difficult, because I hear and the big struggle I’m having, I’m having now is I hear everybody saying, Well, you need to Mitch, Mitch down, you need to niche down, and I’m trying to define my niche. And I really think that my niche is being a civil trial lawyer and I and I would love to hear from some of the other folks who are civil trial lawyers, I really think somebody like Gary Burger, you know, has the same position that if it comes to litigation, when it comes to civil litigation, that too, is in his wheelhouse. So I mean, that’s sort of what I’m struggling with now.

Tyson Mutrux
So it’s interesting. I mean, I, when you say civil litigation, I think just everything under the sun except a criminal. So I would define civil litigation in your mind.

Guy DiMartino
Okay, so my civil litigation practice is only stuff that involves healthcare. So I don’t do divorce. I will do litigation, if it involves a health care clinic or a hospital. I will do you know, I, for instance, if you were to look at the cases that I haven’t lit now, I have like four cases that are in that a medical medical malpractice cases. I have two cases, which are defending doctors from the US government who are suing them for False Claims Act cases. Another case that I just wrapped up with insurance company was going to sue health care provider for millions of dollars alleging fraud. I have multiple civil rights cases, which involve medical care, both both on the plaintiff side, and I represent a sheriff’s office. I represent a community mental health center. So I deal with health care, I look at personal injury claims as touching on health care, because the part of personal injury claim is it’s an injury. So I mean, that’s sort of how I define it. I don’t do you know, business breakups unless it’s involving health care, because involving healthcare, that’s something that’s within my, you know, wheelhouse, because I understand how offices work. I understand how staff works. And so that sort of that makes sense. I Sure. Yeah, it does. I’m

Tyson Mutrux
just curious. I mean, and I found that you have a niche. And the other thing is, is I don’t, I don’t care what you do. I mean, I think from a business standpoint, it makes sense to niche down as much as you can. And that’s fine. But if you like doing all those things, who cares? You know, who cares what other people think about niching? Down? And what, if you enjoy doing other things? It’s great. From my standpoint, I don’t know how you can for each one of those things. And it’s going to be extremely difficult. But can you talk about just Systemising? Just all of that? Well,

Guy DiMartino
I mean, I’ve been doing this long enough. Where, like discovery and like an injury case, if it saw a car accident case, I already have that systemized. If I’m, if I’m defending, defending or a or the plaintiff on a civil rights case. I mean, we I’ve already briefed all the major issues, whether it’s a fourth amendment 14th amendment, Eighth Amendment issue, so I have all that stuff. You know, I have it, and litigation is litigation, you file the complaint, or you file the answer, you do your written discovery. You do you do your depositions, you file your witness and exhibit list. So it’s no, it’s no different except when, you know, I have a good amount of cases in federal court, you know, all those cases are on a rocket docket. So you have to be really conscious of deadlines, in most cases, so I don’t see it as being different or hard to systemize. Because no matter where you’re doing it, whether it’s an auto case, or a civil rights case, you still have to deal with the lien companies, you still have to deal with healthcare companies, you still have to deal with, you know, all the folks along those lines. So it’s really the same. Maybe I’m making it too simple or trying to talk myself into that. But I think it’s the same. So it’s interesting that

Jim Hacking
I came, when you were mentioning the issue of niching. down more, I certainly agree with Tyson that you don’t owe anybody anything. And if you like doing all that stuff, you absolutely should ice and immediately went to the issue of systematizing. And I immediately went to the issue of marketing, which is something that we do a lot. And so my my question, or my thought would be that, you know, the people that you hire that hire you to do a civil rights case, they could care less that you do, you know, personal injury or, you know, civil litigation between two companies or whatever. So, from my perspective, where I would find it tricky, is having a website that lists me doing all those things as opposed to don’t. Okay, yeah, and when I want to one particular audience with one particular website, and they, they don’t necessarily even need to know about the other one.

Guy DiMartino
Right. And so, you know, my, my, like my sending doctors and FCA claims, that’s all word of mouth and referral from other lawyers or mediators or for doctors. You know, I lecture three times a year to a large chiropractic organization in the state of Florida, where I have audiences of sometimes 234 100 people, and I do six to eight hours of continuing education. So I mean, then people will call me regarding their issues. So my facing website, and the marketing is really only two consumers. And it’s really only an injury and civil rights product.

Jim Hacking
But one of you want to, I appreciate getting cases those ways, but one of one, maybe you don’t want to be this busy, but one of you took some time in each practice area and said, Okay, I’m getting cases from my talk. In this practice area, I’m getting cases off the website for civil rights cases. One if there was just one if you just did a mind exercise for a month and just said, Okay, I want to focus on civil rights cases, I want to build out my marketing campaign from start to finish just for civil rights cases. And then do it for each practice area, and then try to maximize each of those practice areas. Maybe you don’t wanna be that busy, but that’s how I would sort of think about it.

Guy DiMartino
Yeah, I’m not really looking to grow. Gym so I want I know that like when the group you see a lot of folks who want to build and get staff and you know, you have all these people that you know, want to have multiple lawyers and you know, they’re working on their business versus working in their business. I have come to the realization at my age, I don’t play well with others that are actually within my environment. I co counsel a lot of cases with people at play well in that respect. So I am not going to bring on associates I am not going to grow I am going to try to develop It’s a lifestyle practice. So I will review, for instance, 25 or 50. cases before I even decide to sit down with somebody and, and talk about. So, you know, I’m trying to develop a, you know, that I don’t want to, you know, just have all these cases and run myself crazy, I’m already running myself crazy out. So that’s sort of my mindset, you know, maybe I need to go back to the 1940s, as opposed to 2019. But that’s sort of I want people to like, pass a bar to even come into my office.

Tyson Mutrux
I mean, I think there are a lot of lessons in that, I think that that’s, that’s actually really good. I think that anyone that really knows you guy knows that you’re not conventional in any in any capacity, which is a great actually a really good thing. And I like the fact that you set the bar so high on wine, I think it’s really good. And I also think there’s a lot of cool things about this discussion, because this is not the typical attorney conversation where most people do want to stay on, they want to get bigger, and they want to have the staff and I like the idea of this, you know, intersection of law and healthcare systems, I think we can have some really, you can have a lot of fun with it. I think, from from the marketing standpoint, I’m just curious. When you’re when you’re looking, you’re at a party or you’re at a barbecue and Hey, guy, what do you do? What do you what do you say,

Guy DiMartino
depends upon the depends upon the barbecue. It is a barbecue with a lot of health care providers. I, I assist healthcare providers with the rules and regulations that get them in trouble. If I’m at a typical barbecue with just the average folks, I assist folks who have been injured in accidents and help them to help them get the recovery is a

Jim Hacking
guy with with so many personal injury lawyers in our group, I’m wondering what advice do you have for them

Tyson Mutrux
in dealing with health care providers?

Guy DiMartino
You know, that’s talk. So I can tell you I practice in two different markets. And it really depends upon the market. The Northwest Indiana market, which were really in Chicago, there’s really an inverse relationship between injury lawyers and the health care providers, you’re fighting with the health care providers to get records, you’re fighting with them to get bills, it is just really an adverse relationship. In Florida, it’s it’s opposite maybe because there’s so many lawyers, and there’s so many doctors, and there’s so much advertising. And there’s this cottage industry where folks only handle injury cases where the health care providers don’t give you a hard time to get the records. You know, they get your release, they send them over right away, or they download them to you. So I think it really depends upon the area that you’re in, because I’m in both ends of the spectrum. I mean, I have to I had to sue a doctor recently to get the stupid record. In Northwest Indiana, it’s just like, ridiculous. And I think so part of the air part of it depends upon where you are practicing.

Tyson Mutrux
This funny guy, I’m actually got on my calendar today is the deadline for a doctor to get me the records. Otherwise, I’m back over a lawsuit. I’ve never actually had to file the lawsuit. I’ve had to send it over multiple times, to providers, and they give me the damn right. So, so frustrating is definitely your pain. So in the same vein with that dealing with the multiple offers, like what do you struggle with the most trying to manage the two off?

Guy DiMartino
It’s tough. What I struggle with the most is that when you do litigation, sometimes you can’t control your own calendar. And you know, even though the technology is such now where like in Florida, if you have a hearing, Because Florida is such a big state that is less than 15 minutes. Under the rules of traditional administration, you have to be able to appear by phone, even though some of the judges don’t know the role. You know, so and in federal court, there’s some federal courts. You know, I’m sure Jim knows he’s in federal court all the time, that allow you to attend by phone, but there’s some judges who are still old school judges, mostly senior judges, that wants you to schlep the court for our 10 minute status conference. So the biggest part about litigation and where I have difficulty is managing the schedule because of so many different entities. I mean, right now I have matters that are pending in the Northern District of Indiana. I have matters in the Northern District, Florida, Middle District of Florida, Southern District, Florida, and you have all these judges with their little five thumbs and so they pull you sometimes in a lot of different directions. So that’s the biggest struggle guy. You

Jim Hacking
are very active in the group and as you said, we do have a lot of Young younger lawyers or people just starting out with their practices, what advice do you have for those guys and

Tyson Mutrux
ladies?

Guy DiMartino
I think that they need to hook up with somebody in their area, or even virtually, that can be their sounding board for the skills of being a lawyer. You know, we have a lot of great lawyers in the group. I mean, and we have folks like John Fisher. So if you’re somebody who’s really thinking about getting into malpractice, you need John will be your mentor. You have folks like, like Wild Bill, you Mansky. If you really want to learn how to Mitch down and develop a criminal law practice. You know, you need to speak to somebody like, like, Will, because the practice of law is really an apprenticeship. And, you know, law school allows us to get our ticket, but learning how to practice law, you really need to surround yourself by really good lawyers. And we have so many of them in the group, like, you know, I was, I was taken aback by the recent podcast that you all had, where the guy said, you know, I really want to do sex crimes. And I said, you’re really need to speak with somebody who has done that, because I’ve seen the way it destroyed, some lawyers personally. And so you’re really, there’s so many people out there in our group, and everybody is so giving, and you don’t have to do it in law online, and when anybody else, but you really need to open up to folks, and everybody will help you. And if you don’t have an, you know, because the market has sort of constricted, and a lot of folks aren’t going to work in firms and getting their three to five years of stuff, you know, to get their their legs underneath them to opening up their own shingle. Now, even more than ever, we need to hook up with some folks who have done it for 1015 20 years. And they can stop a lot of pain and a lot of agony that you might have. Because being a lawyer is tough. You’re dealing with crisis all the time, and most areas of law. True, such

Tyson Mutrux
good advice, because they’re you, especially with a group I’ve got to do is post something and people will reach out to you and give you advice. And so it’s, it’s really easy to do that 30 years ago wasn’t so easy nowadays.

Guy DiMartino
The problem with crude oil advice, you should get 30 different opinions. My my view of it is, you need to find out who is the mack daddy that does that type of work. Like if you really have a question about SEO, or you really have a question about you know, what you want to do? I mean, give us a call, he’ll give you all the time in the world. He doesn’t necessarily want you as a client, but he’ll give you all the information. If you have, you know, a question about immigration, give Jim a call whether you’re even though it’s a national practice, and Jim will tell you everything that you need to know and what he’s learned, you know, in the 20 years that he’s been doing it. So I mean, so I appreciate people putting stuff and getting 30 comments, but I don’t think that helps people.

Tyson Mutrux
As a general rule. I love the usage of mack daddy, I think you and Jim go to the same old school. So I think it’s hilarious that you use that, Gary, for my last question, I think you said you you went into all ages, things. It doesn’t matter what year it was. What advice would you give yourself back in 1996, or whenever you started going, I went to law school.

Guy DiMartino
I went to law school in 96. I graduated in 1999. I would have spent more time at that period of time getting into the internet. I was sort of a late late comer, putting myself out there and marketing myself as opposed to marketing the potential firms that I will where I would have realized that there’s really no stability in the practice of law. And the only thing that you have is who you are. And that no matter what area of law you are, no matter whether you’re in big law, medium law, small law or solo. You’re an entrepreneur, what the people who make it are the people who can develop the work.

Jim Hacking
Guy, you’re a great independency thinker, and I really appreciate your perspective on the call today. I think that a lot of times we do get sort of caught up in the growth growth growth, build, build, build, hustle, hustle, hustle stuff, so I appreciate your perspective. What what are the next five years look like for you? What would you view as success five years from now?

Guy DiMartino
Well, I think I’m going to try to pare down my litigation process Josh and try to pivot a little bit, to doing a more transactional stuff just because of lifestyle changes. Because, you know, litigation really starts taking a toll on you, you know, because it’s always, you’re always going to go. So the way I look at it in the next five years is I’m going to have at least 50% transactional practice, but still doing the same type of stuff, touching healthcare, you know, took it. And as folks are getting older, there’s going to be a lot more need in dealing with the healthcare system.

Tyson Mutrux
Alright, guys, so I’m gonna start to wrap it up. Before I do, I want to remind everyone to go to Facebook group where you can connect with other lawyers and get that mentor that you’re looking for, or just get information or share information with or whatever it might be. Also, you don’t mind, please give us a five star review, on iTunes, wherever you get your podcasts. Jimmy, what’s your, we

Jim Hacking
had a very interesting conversation with our own Kent Richardson the other day, and we were talking about people who say that they want to do videos, and say that they want to do podcasts and get started and spend the money to build it out. And then and then they fall off. And, you know, I often attribute the success of this podcast and our continuity to your Tyson’s follow through. And I think that it’s easy to get distracted. But my hack of the week is to recommit yourself, if you’ve, if you’ve put it out there that you want to do something, and you just sort of let it fall away. It’s not that you made a decision, but you just sort of have been half assing it my hack is get back into it, reconnect with why you did it, figure out why it’s important.

Tyson Mutrux
And, and double your effort. And this is a bonus hack for your hack. I mean, on the calendar, you’re on the calendar every week or every day whenever you’re gonna do it. And that’s what can help you do the damn calendar. Alright, guys, so you’re, you know, the routine is gonna say, kids are a hack, and then also give us some information in your podcast.

Guy DiMartino
I’ve been dealing with this whole issue of niching down and there was a recent book that just came out from the New York real estate lawyer. His name is Bruce statute Feld. And if you want to be getting rich, build a power of a niche, and he takes you through the way he developed, being in a small firm, and being in a commercial real estate business in New York City, how he just has taken over the market, and the things that he did. So it’s a quick read. I mean, each chapter is like a page, a page and a half. And there’s like 50 chapters in the book. So it makes it makes me think, but I still don’t want to follow that. I don’t think I’m there. But I think it would be great for somebody to read and a lot eight, nine bucks. So the power of the power niche. If you want to be rich, build a power niche.

Tyson Mutrux
I have a podcast.

Guy DiMartino
I have a couple of them on the personal injury law podcast I send you are on it will add spin on it, we really try to deconstruct some of the issues with personal injury law. It’s more putting off base on it that we’re not all billboard lawyers and TV lawyers, and why we’ve gotten into the the practice. And then I also have a chiropractic facing podcast called the chiropractic lawyer. We discuss things regarding health care, we interviewed some some doctors, we talked about, you know, some asset protection and some of the things that healthcare providers can

Tyson Mutrux
do. A lot of if it’s ready to cater global global nature. And can

Guy DiMartino
actually does my work, thanks to you all. So I just uploaded content, and he puts it on Lipson and then puts it on the websites. And he helps me a lot. He does a great job. And he’s really responsive.

Tyson Mutrux
I love it. Alright, so my tip of the week is actually pretty simple. So I had a storage unit I moved a couple of years ago, and I never closed out my storage unit account. And I finally got around to doing it. And public storage has a really simple way of getting Google reviews. And they’ve got a lot of Google reviews online. And I’m curious to see if other people whenever they Google Public Storage in their area, they’ve got a bunch of reviews in their area, but St Louis to do it. It’s just a really simple thing. I’m one side of English and other sides of Spanish. And it says please share your feedback. The person that gives it to you writes their name on it, they want you to put their personal name into the review they get they get credit for it is review your experience. Give your opinion on Google or Yelp and help others make a good scores decision help others write a review and they give the good they give them a review website and it’s really fun important, so I probably would not have reviewed that place and they’ve not given me this big postcard. It’s got a half sheet of paper, so it’s not small. It’s really, really simple way of getting reviews. And we all know that those are really, really important. So I’m gonna start doing it taking and then putting them at something absolutely printed out. And if can we give a client a check? We’re gonna give them a big ol postcard and contribute. So another simple way of doing it. Alright guys, thank you so much for coming on. There’s a lot of fun. I really enjoyed having you on.

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